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Hello,

I teach SYSUDUMP or CEEDUMP reading for several sites in Germany, for
ASSEMBLER, PL/1 and C programmers. But it's not very common; I guess, only a
few teachers do this here in Germany, because I get requests from all over the
country (but not very often).

In my opinion, this should anyway be interesting for every programmer, because
you get lots of insights in the way the hardware and the operating system works.
Often, the PL/1 programmers say, that they finally unterstood what really
happens inside the box by learning how to read the dumps.

By the way, if some company here in Germany is interested, don't hesitate to
contact me offline.

Regards

Bernd



Am Mit, 13 Nov 2002 schrieben Sie:
> I tried to at other shops. Some programmers were very interested. Others
> seemed to think that their only responsibility was to produce COBOL code
> (coding JCL was not their responsibility, sizing files was not their
> responsibility, etc). I don't really know what is actually reasonable to
> expect of programmers any more. Reading SYSUDUMPs or CEEDUMPs may no longer
> be reasonable. We in this forum may be "crusty oldtime bit-twiddlers"
> <grin>.
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